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Tongue tied

It’s just over a month now since I wrote about the trials and tribulations we were having trying to breastfeed Henry. Well when I say we my role was clearly just that of concerned observer the lady of the manor was doing all the hard work. But in any case I wanted to give an update.

Since that last post we have seen 3 midwives, an osteopath twice, the health visitor on multiple occasions and our GP. Despite all that it’s really only in the past week to 10 days that we have seen a real change in Henry. We went as planned to see the chief mouth lady where we discovered that Henry did indeed have a tongue tie and pretty substantial one at that (which strangely makes me quite proud). She duly cut the tie and we hoped that was problem solved.

Unfortunately he continued to feed for hours and hours, seemingly never getting enough. So we went back again for another check and the chief mouth lady examined him. Turns out there was still more to be cut but she wasn’t willing to do it and wanted her boss (big chief mouth lady) to take a look for a second opinion. An appointment for a week later was duly made and we returned home again.

By this time the lady of the manor was suitably fed up as you can imagine. Henry was almost 5 weeks old and this problem still wasn’t fixed. Big chief mouth lady had a look and suggested waiting ANOTHER week before cutting the tie. At which point the lady of the manor had had enough. She told big chief mouth lady that she was going to cut his tongue tie and she was going to do it NOW.

End result? Massive gristly tongue tie finally cut, Henry can now feed properly and I’m reliably informed ‘it feels like he is sucking my insides out’. I’ll take that as a good thing.

In amongst all this we also went to see the cranial osteopath for some ‘adjusting’. First visit Henry was pronounced to be full of tension and very stiff. In particular his gut was further forward than normal which could be from the birth and might explain some of his wind issues. After the second visit big improvements, tension pretty much gone and no need to go back. Osteopathy is a very odd thing though isn’t it? Doesn’t look like they are doing much but seemingly they do.

Now we have a baby boy who is packing on the pounds, who is definitely more chilled and eating quicker and less frequently. We aren’t topping up with formula any more either. No doubt some of this is simply because he is older but I’m convinced that both these things we’ve done have made a massive difference.

However the frustration at having to fight the system to get what we needed remains. Couples with less confidence or with their first child may not have done this. Plus having to do the research and suggest these solutions ourselves simply isn’t the way it worked.

Our health visitor who is a lovely lady has decided to use our case as a training and learning case with her colleagues. Which is great but shame we had to be the guinea pigs. Let’s hope the midwives also learn from this and start suggesting other things than just giving formula.

Oh and here’s the obligatory cute photo of the 2 of them.


  1. Glad the desired result was achieved but what a shame you had to do the research yourselves… Glad he’s feeding we’ll now. And as usual, gorgeous pic 🙂

  2. Oh wow! So happy for you & especially your mrs! We wanted to go the osteopath but never got ’round to it, which I regret now. Glad it’s working for you, as a fellow “sufferer” I know how tough it is. And we’re the first timers with the lack of confidence to demand what you did. After my c section I think all the midwives at hospital had signed me off as a formula mummy. And I was so set on breastfeeding. There isn’t enough support on the nhs… And after months of “breast is best” they don’t help you with breastfeeding & tell you to give formula… So contradictory & disappointing… There needs to be a change

    • It’s a huge contradiction and not necessarily the midwives fault as they don’t have so much time with parents any more. But doesnt make it right

  3. Not the point of the post at all, but that dress is just adorable

  4. That’s really interesting. We abandoned breastfeeding first time round after a nightmare couple of weeks, even quicker second time around. Partly because Gem wasn’t completely comfortable with the whole thing, but mostly because it just wasn’t working. Sounds a lot like what you’ve described though – feeding constantly without getting anywhere near enough out of it.

    At no point was there any mention of a physical problem though – Heather’s constant screaming was diagnosed as colic, and we got prescribed a little bottle of crystals, but that didn’t really help. Only when we switched her to formula did we realise her problem had been HUNGER all along.

    • Yeah sounds very similar, screaming because they are hungry rather than have colic. Such a tough and stressful time though it’s hard to think logically

  5. I cannot beleive they do not routinley check for tongue tie as part of the baby checks before they leave the hospital. Its something so reletively simple and can be resolve don day one. Being tongue tied myself I was aware of such a problem and how it can lead to issues with breast feeding (I didnt as a baby because of it). If you just are not aware then you struggle on (or watch your OH struggle on) with trying to feed with great difficulty.

    So many simple proceedures this country do not check for its rediculous.

    • In theory they do have a quick look, but Henry’s was posterior so at the back of the mouth and only a specialist would find that.

  6. I swear by cranial osteopathy. It helped all three of my babies to feed and sleep. Can’t extol it’s virtues enough!

  7. Another good post there and I’m glad you’ve got there in the end. Again I know how you feel, when you’re sure there’s something wrong and you keep getting told there isn’t, then someone finally listens and you get a result which makes all the difference in the world.

    For us it was breastfeeding and it turned out that Olivia just wasn’t getting enough from mum as she wasn’t well and her body was not coping. We switched to formula and although she was no longer screaming in hunger she had a transient lactose intolerance which when addressed made a huge difference. We had to push for that one. It was worth it.

    So yes, less confident or more trusting people may not get what they need, which is wrong.

  8. I had a traumatic birth and cranial osteopathy really sorted out both me and Little A. It looks like they are doing nothing but is a powerful treatment.

    • It’s amazing how many people have commented and said that yet it I never heard it mentioned by either the midwives or on our NCT course

  9. So glad you managed to get it all sorted. We struggled for months with tongue tie but it wasn’t deemed severe enough to snip – it did stretch in the end but boy was it a struggle. Then with no.2, I checked him immediately for a tongue tie and was relieved to find none. A couple of weeks later though I realised he had an upper labial/frenulum tie! Thank goodness for the internet.

  10. I hope things finally settle down for you all. My daughter’s tongue tie had to be cut twice as well. Unfortunately it all got sorted quite late so I had to fight the system not just to get her TT acknowledged and cut but then again to get the help I needed to breastfeed exclusively since my supply had taken a massive hit. It just makes me angry thinking of how unsupportive so many of the HCP’s we saw were! Your wife is awesome for insisting that they do the cut sooner rather than later though. I was just so timid.

    • What worries me is that every time I blog about it I get lots of comments like this. But wifey is a nurse so used to the system and also very strong willed when she wants something.

  11. so glad everything is sorted now, makes me angry that they think they can just leave you hanging for so long!

  12. Wow! Well done you for persevering and being an advocate for your child. You both are far stronger than I ever could be. And what gorgeous babies you have! 😉 Thanks so much for sharing this post on the Parent Hood Linky…may be the only one! 😉 ~Karin

  13. We had to get our little girl’s tounge tie snipped last week but as she was being bottle fed the Dr wasn’t going to do it. He told us if she was breastfed he would have done it there and then! Like you, we told them we wanted it done. I know it’s not pleasant but parents know best for their children and it makes me cross that you have to fight to get these things done! Glad everything is sorted!

    • that’s crazy even with bottle feeding it can impact how they feed. Annoys me that there isn’t more done to identify and fix tongue ties

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